Blade balanace?

[shanee86]

I have another question I am wondering what I need to get or do to make my heli go upside down? I have 5 servos do I need 6? I don't think so right now I have 2 servos moving with the throttle like if you give throttle the pitch is more. I am wondering do I need another reciever to do upside down guy at hobby shop and dad think I might because think all my ports on it are taken? Any ideas would be great thanks. I know you what to set pitch at and throttle I think. But not sure if what I got will do it.

[chaos]

5 channels is enough to fly upside down. A 6th channel would be to control the sensitivity or mode of a gyro. But you don't have to have that, especially if your gyro doesn't have a remote adjustment. The main thing is to set up the radio and the mechanics for "3D".

Let me hasten to say, it would be a real good idea to practice on a simulator before inverting your heli. Give yourself plenty of room below so you can recover.

Here are some videos for the mechanical setup.

Here is a video on setting up the TX.

Usually, for this kind of flying you set the normal mode for hovering at 3/4 stick with zero pitch at half stick and and around -3 pitch at low stick. You start the engine in the normal mode. In the normal mode you can fly as usual, but it hovers at 3/4 stick so it's a little more touchy since you go from hover pitch to full pitch in only 1/4 additional stick.

Anyway, once the rotor is up to speed - which should be at half stick if the power curve middle point is set right - you can switch to Idle Up mode which has a different pitch and power curve. The video will explain. Basically the stick from middle up is for rightside up flying and from middle down is for upside down flying. The pitch curve is a straight line from -10 to +10 degrees (or whatever your limits are), with zero pitch in the middle stick. The power curve at the low end of the stick is a copy of the high end of the stick. So when you go full down with the throttle stick you have max power, and max pitch in the negative direction. If you're upside down and you want to go up you have to pull the stick back. If you panic and push up on the stick you'll drive the heli into the ground unless you have room to recover. It's a good idea to get a habit learned on the sim.

When you're upside down the rudder and elevator controls will seem to work backwards. It makes sense the way it works, of course, but in the heat of the moment it can be confusing. Learning to hover upside down is kinda like learning to hover all over again. Be patient. I hope you have a sim. Wear it out if so.

[shanee86]

Lol yea I have a sim had a sim since I got my blade cx or alittle after my cx. I can fly upside down all around and do almost everything on it. It is real flight g3 but still don't think I can on my heli because I am scared to much because I can't replace it right now lol. Also because on real flight it is just a push of button and you can fly again and real isn't that way. But I will get my cp back soon and I will try it with that.

But main think was just wondering if I could do it with what I got. Guy at hobby shop said I need another receiever and I have a 6 channel one. So just was wondering. I probably could or can fly upside down do that better or used to on real flight then right side up sometimes lol. Then the stunts or alot of them are pretty easy on it. But I don't think it is really real enough. Or it is just me because I can fly very good on it and do alot of stuff but when I get mine in the air for real I get scared and screw up so don't want to try. If I get the nerve soon to get mine way up there then I might try it. Since lately been flying or since I got it my top hight was like maybe 30 foot with my heli. That is why I crashed probably flying back at myself because I was only about 1 foot at most not even that from ground. Then did wrong stick movement and blade tipe hit the ground. But up high I can bearly see it lol.

Oh and also not sure if my heli has auto rotation I am sure I can do auto but never done it yet. If I knew my had it I would be so scared to get high.

[chaos]

wondering if I could do it with what I got

Yep. Just get the mechanics and the radio set up right.

not sure if my heli has auto rotation

Yeah, according to the info I see. Hold the gear that the clutch drives so it can't turn and you should be able to easily turn the blades clockwise without the gear turning.

[shanee86]

Thanks for the info my dad said it has a clutch so it had auto rotation but on the net it shows something else other then clutch. But anyway yea I can hold the tail and turn the blades one way but not other way. So I am thinking it had it. I will try what you said thanks. Also I am getting mad at my heli lol because of the dang tail it keeps messing up. Like the tail gear keeps moving on the rod so we found out we had that wrong had the shaft or little shaft in backwords. So I fixed that but since we had it that way we used set screws in the tail gear and so now that little rod that supposed to go in there just comes out beacause gear hole is bigger. But maybe I don't have right size rod because it won't fit tight in the shaft either. I am not sure, but also the bail bearing for my tail the one that is in the gear box and on the side of tail rotor keeps going into case or slipping lose and going back. So that tail wiggles and heli goes unstable. But I haven't crashed it yet because of any of this just is pain. Haven't really got to fly it much at all since crash dang it. So it is making me mad. So we put a bigger screw in it or my dad did and that seemed to be snug so I flew a tank in it then start another tank today and then it was becoming unstable and I was trying to trim it and tail would keep changing. So I landed and was looked over it a few times then back up before I noticed the tail was wiggling because of bearing fell in. I can't wait to get my blade cp back then it weather is nice and this heli is broke I will fly it. But I am thinking I just should get the metal tail gears and take the gear box off and hit that bearing in good. I have hit or pushed it hard with a alean rinch that may do it but that is about what I did before.

[chaos]

it has a clutch so it had auto rotation but on the net it shows something else other then clutch

The clutch and the one-way bearing are two different critters. The clutch allows the engine to run at low rpm without trying to drive the rotor, and you need that to get the thing started. The one-way bearing allows the rotor to turn without it trying to turn the clutch bell. The Hawk Pro has both. If the engine quit and you didn't have the one-way bearing, then the rotor would be trying to drive the gears that connect the rotor to the clutch bell. That's an extra bit of drag on the rotor and slows down the autorotation.