New Heli pilot - What G3 heli to train on?

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Hey All,

I just got G3 and find it harder to learn to hover in it than on my hirobo XTR Lama? (1hour flight time) Anyhow, what would you guys suggest as the best heli to learn on? I plan on moving to a Blade CP and then a Trex, much further down the road. Also, is there something to help newbies train on G3?

Thanks,

M

[kaji]

I'm not sure if you have add ons or not, but if you have, try the dominion 90 and use your dual rates. It may not be the smallest, but in my opinion you want the most stable. All you want at this time is to learn eye hand coordination during the hover, and you want the best trimmed and stable chopper there is. Just cause its not like the one you own doesn't make any difference. You don't want to fight it in the air all the time. Once you learn how to hover, you'll hover anything trimmed out, and set up correctly.

the heli with the trainer balls seems to be the easyest to hover on. (impala I think)

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I've tried the impala and I find it much less responsive than my little hirobo lama.

What are the following switches for?

1)dual rate? From what I can tell this adjusts blade pitch for forward flight vs aerobatic flight

2)Throttle hold? From what I've found this cuts the throttle off...period

3)3 position swithch? finally as I have deduced, you can use the throttle to handle blade speed and pitch at the same time or use the 3 way to adjust engine speed and then the thottle only adjust + vs - pitch. Is that correct?

Thanks fellas.

Mike

[kaji]

On the G3 TX the dual rates cuts your cyclic in approx. half the normal movement, or elevator and rudder on a plane. If the heli is to fast and touchy to control the flip the dual rate switch and it cuts the servo speed in half. Make sure that switch is up or your only getting half the servo speed out of anything you fly.
Throttle hold takes the throttle to idle for auto-rotations. Get high, throw the switch, drop left stick collective below halfway , then before Helli crashes give some collective and land. Pretty simple, huh.
The three way switch is your idle up or 3d switch. All the way forward is normal hover and flight. Middle position is 3d flying and 3d throttle and pitch curves. Example= when right side up you push left stick full up to get full throttle and pitch, and when inverted you pull left stick full down to get full throttle and pitch. Engine doesn't idle in this mode. Switch back to normal to land.
Full backward position is same as middle except for faster blade speed.

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Originally Posted by kaji

On the G3 TX the dual rates cuts your cyclic in approx. half the normal movement, or elevator and rudder on a plane.
Throttle hold takes the throttle to idle for auto-rotations. Get high, throw the switch, drop left stick collective below halfway , then before Helli crashes give some collective and land. Pretty simple, huh.
The three way switch is your idle up or 3d switch. All the way forward is normal hover and flight. Middle position is 3d flying and 3d throttle and pitch curves. Example= when right side up you push left stick full up to get full throttle and pitch, and when inverted you pull left stick full down to get full throttle and pitch. Engine doesn't idle in this mode. Switch back to normal to land.
Full forward position is same as middle except for faster blade speed.

Hey Kaji,

Thanks again but I'm still a little confused. First off, when you say 'forward' you mean away from me?

what i've noticed is that when the 3 way is pushed away from me, my throttle controls speed and pitch together (what do you call that by the way?) Middle position it speeds up and the stick controls blade pitch, and as you said closest to me speeds up the the head a little more.

So if I understand correctly middle and closest to me position are the same except for head speed and furthest from me joins speed and pitch together? Is that right?

and the dual rate just just cuts the amount I have to move the sticks around by half. Meaning half the movements now does as much as it did before I flicked the switch and if so, which way is which?

BTW, so far of all the helis I've tried, I like the Bell 222 scale head the best. Responds just quick enough, is stable and trimmable.

Thanks again,

Mike

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Ok, I just tried the dual rate thing and that is really cool and I totally see what you mean. I like it more sensitive, cuz I find I am able to correct faster. BTW, does that 2 position usually do that on all the g3 helis?

Mike

[kaji]

Yes, on my TX if you push the idle up switch all the way forward (away from you, your in what is called normal flight mode), unless your switch is reversed in you TX. This is where you do most hovering and forward flight. You cant do inverted flight here. You can do minor moves such as loops and rolls.
Your left stick up and down, always controls collective (pitch) and throttle at the same time. The amount varies depending on how you set up your real chopper. In normal flight mode stick down-4 degrees pitch and at idle. When you move stick forward, pitch and throttle increase together.
On mine ,dual rate normal is up. Flick back and forth , the most sensitive is normal. I think it works on all the G3 Chop.
The idle up switch middle and towards you are 3D positions with only difference being blade speed. Here you throttle never drops below half stick and you get full throttle and max pitch at high and low stick. I know I don't explain that well, so go to this web.

http://www.raptortechnique.com/