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Old 03-09-2007, 05:26 PM
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Re: Just hovered.

It comes with LOTS of practice... I mean, LOTS of practice. It involves being attentive to the least bit of change in the tilt of the rotor disk and making a small adjustment right away. It's close to being psychic.
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Old 03-10-2007, 02:41 PM
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Re: Just hovered.

I just noticed what you mean. I just had the heli out and hovered in an area where I was not afraid if it got away from me. I have to say that he simulator helped alot. I was able to hover and keep it with in a spot of about 10'. It was alot of fun. Now I know what y'all are talking about when you say the addicition.
The only thing that happened was I tried getting ahead of myself. I tried some forward flight. When I went to make the u-turn to come back to me, The heli slammed into the ground nose first. I know what I did wrong. I did not pull back on the collective enough. So all that happened is I have a dent in the one rotor blade and the nose of the canopy is broken. No big deal. I will try to get it out tomorrow and work on hovering some more.
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Old 03-11-2007, 03:12 PM
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Re: Just hovered.

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I tried getting ahead of myself
I'm sure you're not alone in that. I'm sure because I'm one of the guilty.

But yeah, it would be good to go back to working on the hover. Try to get it down to a radius of 5 feet, then 2 feet, then 1 foot. Work on it in all orientations. Hovering nose-in takes some bit of practice because it's all backwards. Try to imagine yourself in the heli. If the heli is aimed at you and drifting to the left in relation to your real position, it would be drifting to your right if you were in it. Try to think of it that way. Tighten up on the hover slop. Work on soft landings with zero horizontal movement; especially sideways movement, and backwards is no good either.

Starting out with forward flight is best done in small steps with the heli going back and forth left/right. Get it going to the right, for example, just a little ways, then slow and stop. Hover, and turn around and go the other way. Do it slow to start with... walking speed. When you do it faster it gets more complicated. The heli will descend a bit to start with, because some of the lifting force is being used to get it going forward, so you need a dash more collective. Then, when it gets going, you get the benefit of "translational lift" and it wants to climb, so you need less collective. And when you pull back on the cyclic to slow down it wants to climb, so, less collective. And when it slows you loose translational lift so you need more collective. Going back and forth at a faster speed keeps you busy on the collective. You should work hard at trying to hold your altitude constant. Do the fast version of this maneuver just like the slow one, stopping at each end of the run in a nice hover. Then do a rudder turn (aka "pedal turn", swing it around with the rudder) and go the other way.

When you get that squared away then work on going in a circle. Work on keeping the bank steady and holding altitude. You will have to hold a bit of rudder to compensate for the effort of the gyro. If the bank gets too steep the heli will loose altitude. If you correct the wrong way this can get out of hand pretty quick. Doing a lot of hovering in different orientations will help prevent this. But when things start to go down the drain, get the rotor disk level and do what you need to do with the collective. But when the panic light is on get the rotor disk moving towards level right away because collective won't help much if you get into a steep bank. Be patient, and try to remember to "wiggle your toes".

I started learning to fly airplanes when I was a kid, and one day my flight instructor told me to wiggle my toes. I wondered, what the heck does that have to do with flying? That was the most crazy thing I ever heard. But the idea is to do something to get past "tunnel vision". Many years later I was flying my RC heli and, like you, I got ahead of myself. I had it going at a pretty good speed and my tunnel vision was so bad I might as well have been looking at the heli through a straw. I ran the heli right smack into a barn. I did, in fact, hit the broad side of a barn. I didn't see it coming. I should have remembered to wiggle my toes.
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Old 03-11-2007, 10:11 PM
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Re: Just hovered.

Thanks Chaos. That helped alot. I think I am going to go back to just working on the hover. I think I am going to work on different heights. I can hover it at about three feet but anything over that I get disorientated. I will save the forward flight for outside. There is just not enough room with only 30' celings.
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Old 03-14-2007, 01:07 PM
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Re: Just hovered.

Good luck getting that cp to fly noise in. I can't for the life of me get my blade cp to go nose in I am not sure way think I am hitting tail to hard or something. Everytime I hit the tail in hover to turn it goes in a big cirlce not like a tail spin circle but like flying in a huge circle around me while im just tryin got keep it for crashing into the ground. I have only managed once I think to keep it from crashing. Never managed noise in with it yet, I fly my big hawk pro 30 and I can hit tail on it and it doesn't do that and I have even flown a bit noise in. That is how I crashed only time so far was hovering noise in and opps wrong way and I was so low didn't have time to fix. But I had down it a few times before with no issues but didn't keep it were I wanted for long like I can tail in. But anyway good luck also I been getting alot better now just started flying my cp again because my big ones motor head got messed up around glow plug. But the cp is the hardest there is to fly and I hate it compared to my big one.
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Old 03-14-2007, 08:39 PM
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Re: Just hovered.

I have heard the Cp is one of the hardest things to fly. I am hoping that if I can learn to fly that, then I can fly just about anything. But I am not having that problem with the tail not spining. It will rotate around itself all day. The tail motor seems to cut in and out. After the battery gets down to about half is when it starts happening. It just causes me to have to hold the rudder more. No biggie. I will just keep working at it.
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Old 03-22-2007, 03:16 PM
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Can anyone helpme

Hi can anyone help me i have a walkera 22E i dont know what is wrong with it but i cant get it of the ground the guys at the hobby shop said it doesn't have a nuff pitch does anyone know why plzz thanx
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Old 03-25-2007, 12:25 PM
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Re: Just hovered.

You need to set the pitch of the blades to get the heli to fly the right way. That isnludes getting off of the ground. I would go out and get a pitch guage and read the manual. There should be a chart that tells you what pitch the blades should be at at different throttle postitons.
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